Extrajudicial Punishment Quotes



In the War on Terror, some CIA officers had gotten a George W, Bush Administration green light to torture some captured terrorists using a torture technique known as “water boarding”—a practice for which American military personnel were court marshaled and convicted in the Philippine War. The torture sessions had been videotaped, a normal procedure with CIA interrogations. The fact of the torture had leaked and a national scandal ensued with Americans on both sides of the question. President Bush and his Vice President publicly stated that the United States does not torture. Rodriguez then ordered the tapes destroyed. Later he gave his reasons after the Obama Administration decided not to investigate the matter or determine which, if any, CIA officials might have broken the law, by wither doing the torturing or destroying evidence—“obstructing justice.”


One myth is that Islamic violence is caused by the dispute over Israel in the Middle East and American and Christian encroachments into Islam. Violence by Muslims against fellow Muslims is responsible for many more deaths than Muslims perpetrate against the West. In this example it shows that Muslim on Muslim violence in Egypt alone is far grater than the violence against the Israelis. In the Iraq war, Muslim insurgents killed many more fellow Muslims than they killed Americans. Many Muslims will kill and intimidate anyone of any religion who simply disagrees with them. Governments fighting the terrorists often, out of desperation, resort to Emergency Laws, suspensing rights or other extra judicial means. Democratic Israel, which has had to cope with terrorism for its entire existence still has a constitutional democracy and has not resorted to undemocratic extra judicial means of counter terrorism.


The American military and CIA officials made a number of errors in dealing with some of the prisoners. Once military desecrated a Muslim Holy Book with urine, many or the active and violent prisoners were kept in solitary confinement, but secrecy allowed Islamic propagandists to claim that this was done with almost all. Worst of all CIA interrogators were allowed to use ‘enhanced techniques’ (torture). Prisoners were not allowed to have reasonable contact to attorneys and where there were, these were monitored. Most of the prisoners were never charged with anything and yet they never received sentences and no one had any idea whether or not they would ever be charged, tried, sentenced or released. Even where there were some prisoners that the American authorities were willing to release, only a few were as their original counties would not accept them. Islamic extremist terrorist recruiters use Guantanamo to propagandize against America, and many new terrorist recruits were primarily motivated they claimed by the way that fellow Muslims had been treated in Guantanamo. Almost all agreed that Guantanamo was a negative, but it became very difficult to close it down and despite all the errors of operation, very few Americans were willing to return all these men to the battlefield to re-jojn the terrorists and other countries were unwilling to take the responsibility for their custody.


The treaty to which he referred was The Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment. During the George W. Bush administration the CIA had tortured 3 captives in the War on Terror. The CIA destroyed the video tapes of the torture sessions and many Americans wanted President Obama to investigate and prosecute the torturers in accordance with the requirements of the treaty when there is a torture incident. However, a major ethical and legal complication was that the Bush Administration had issued an official legal memorandum to the CIA which said that the forms of torture that they used, water boarding, was not legally torture. Most legal scholars agree that this legal opinion was incorrect and America had previously prosecuted and punished the few American soldiers who had used Waterboarding. President Obama decided that since the CIA torturers, had been authorized in writing, that a criminal prosecution would be unfair. He also declined to have the Justice Department investigate the torture incidents, Many disagreed, and this quotation summarized their point of view. See {642428} for some of the language of the Convention.