It is so weird to be on this side of that, because when you're starting out, and it seems like you're starting out for so long, you look up to the people who have made their mark. And you sort of want to be that.
It's actually not unlike Google at that stage of development. They had an up-and-running site. It wasn't losing very much money, it wasn't making very much money, but it was growing.
We have just started, and if you compare the number of people using Skype to the number using a telephone network around the world, we're still just starting.
I've enjoyed being a part of something from the beginning, when we were still finding our footing.
When you found a company, you have the original vision, you make all the original decisions, you know every employee, you kind of know every aspect of the product architecture and its limitations.
Venture capital is about capturing the value between the startup phase and the public company phase.
When you're starting up a show, you don't really know what direction it's going to go.
It was really a very small company when I started and it changed very rapidly during those first periods.