Joseph Stannard Baker Quotes
It does seem to me that the laboring classes were possessed of the Devil. I believe in the free application of rifle balls, grape and canister to mobs.
While Ray was very sympathetic towards the strike, his father’s attitude was typical of that of business men across the nation. A picket line or demonstration was a “mob” and mobs should be broken up before they do physical damage to people or property. “Grape” and “canister” were types of ammunition for cannon that was used against personnel in war. One shell could kill 20-30 men in a crowd.
Joseph Stannard Baker, 1838-1912, Civil War Agent of the Secret Service, Business Agent, Father of Ray Stannard Baker, Letter to his son Ray regarding the Pullman labor dispute Ray was writing about, August 1894
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