Michel de L'Hopital Quotes
A man does not cease to be a citizen for being excommunicated.
This amazing pronouncement separated the right of citizenship from religion. This was opposed by most clerics as to them excommunication meant that the person should have no rights whatsoever. There was a practical side to the Chancellor’s view. At the time there were bitter religious civil wars in France. Each sect would castigate and excommunicate its religious and often military enemies. Things had reached such a point where anybody who was anybody had been excommunicated by somebody. If citizenship were to be nullified by excommunication, then the state would have to take sides. If it treated all excommunications as equal, too many people would be denied their citizenship. Therefore the only practical solutions were to have a single state religion or to separate excommunication from citizenship. France was beyond the possibility of a state religion with Catholics, Lutherans, Huguenots--all had large established congregations of followers and there were smaller sects.
Michel de L'Hopital, 1504-1573, Judge, Scholar and Chancellor of France, Address to the Estates assembled at Orleans, December, 1560
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As enlightened as this statement is, it was not always a part of Mormon doctrine. When Brigham Young was head of the church he also served as Governor of the Utah Territory, and the separation of church and state was not so clear. In modern times however, the Mormon views have been the quintessential views of most Americans—Mormon or otherwise.
Lopez had come from Portugal and had been living in Rhode Island for 9 years and was active in shipping, whaling and candle making. He, and another Jew, Issac Elizer, petitioned the Rhode Island Superior Court for naturalization and citizenship rights. The court turned them down and they appealed to the Rhode Island Assembly—then not only the legislature but the highest court in the colony. The assembly came up with a compromise. The Jews were allowed to continue to live and work in Rhode Island but they could not hold public office or vote. They told the Superior Court to reconsider the case however as Lopez and Elizer were model citizens—but for religion just the kind the colony wanted. This case and many others were known to the founding fathers who were determined to put a stop to the practice of conditioning voting and office holding rights on adhering to the particular sect of the majority of the colony. Lopez and Elizer then appealed again to the Superior Court.
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The origins of the extreme religious intolerance of Spain occurred centuries before the excesses of the Spanish Inquisition. Before the Conference the Visigoths and their king had been converted to Christianity but not all cared for the new religion.
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As a woman, Anthony was found guilty of “illegal voting” in the Presidential election of 1872. Fining her $100 the judge asked if she had anything to say. This was her reply.
Louisiana was then a possession of France
Lopez and Elizer were Jews who had escaped the persecution in Portugal to come to America. They and other non-Christians could live and work in Rhode Island but could not vote or hold public office by a previous decision of the Rhode Island Assembly. See {619707}.The Jews had petitioned for their civil rights.
There was freedom of religion for Protestants in early New Jersey. Note that Catholics and Jews were not allowed to hold office. This constitution was in force until 1844 when the prohibition was repealed by new constitution. Under the original constitution, men were convicted for blasphemy. See {621063} .
See {619709}. Ever since the Jews were ejected from their nation by the Romans, there have been some Jews and non-Jews who believed that the refusal of other nations to allow Jews citizenship inhibited their assimilation and was God’s way of maintaining the Jews as a distinct people so that they may fulfill Biblical prophesy and return to the Land of Israel. Stiles was a leading historian of his day and specialized in ancient Biblical history. Most people however, and most Jews, do not hold with this theory.
After attending a Lincoln speech, Booth said to Lewis Powell, one of his band of conspirators, “Now, by God, I’ll put him through. That is the last speech he will ever make.”
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Curtis resigned from the court over the majority opinion.
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Roman citizenship had been reserved only for Romans. However, when Caesar spend extended time in Cleopatra’s Alexandria, he saw the effect of having a great center of learning in a city. It not only improved the quality of life, but the economic effect was profound as even though Rome was the most powerful Empire of the world, Alexandria was much larger, wealthier, and better developed. It was an effect not unlike that of a great university made throughout Europe later and America today. The scholars and intellectuals in sufficient numbers acted like a modern incubator.
The 14th Amendment made the Black slaves and their families all citizens as most people know, but it had two other important aspects. It prohibited the individual states from deciding who who was and was not a citizen of the country and the state. In addition, it guaranteed that anyone born in the United States was a citizen regardless of the status of his parents—citizens or not, illegal immigrants or legal.