He was describing hackers. The term originally was used in the comptuer world to refer to a perso who had the tallent and the knowhow to enter anbd utilize computers when the did not have the specific permissions to do so. Many computer security experts refer to themjselves as hackes because they show computer managers where their vulnerabilities are. Others work for law enforcement, and some work for expionage agencies, Others are theives who use theior abilties to steal or commit fraud. Still other hackers see hacking as a sport and break into computers for the challange.